| John 10:30 "I and my Father are one." | This shows God and Jesus are one and the same person. | John 17:11,20-23 "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are...
[20] Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; [21] That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. [22] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: [23] I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me." | If the trinitarian 'logic' be carried forward then God is not a trinity but a multiplicity consisting of at least God, Jesus, Those disciples with him in the garden of Gethsemene, Plus all those who believe on Jesus throughout the Age. (vss 20-23) |