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Dear Brother: In an attempt to understand Rev. 16:16-21, what's been found/seen seems good, but I'm wondering if I'm getting off to a good start? Could you help me out on this?

2014 FEB -- ARMAGEDDON BEGAN 1914

Complete Jew. B. P. Glossary:

Har-Me�gid�do (Armageddon)�the "hill of Megiddo," an ancient town with more than twenty archeological layers covering the period from nearly 6000 years ago until the fourth century b.c.e. It was chosen again and again as the site for a city because of its strategic location guarding a pass on the Via Maris (the "Way of the Sea") joining Egypt and Assyria and overlooking the Valley of Yizre'el (Jezreel, Esdraelon), apparently the site of the final eschatological battle. However, Greek armageddon could be rendering of Har Migdo ("hill of his glory"), in which case it refers to Mount Tziyon in Yerushalayim. Rev_16:16.

[Interesting to refer to a hill/valley where "battles" were fought, while really meaning Jerusalem and Mt. Zion; and in our day of 2000's, Jerusalem is the place of controversy, increasingly.]


EASTON: Armageddon
Occurs only in Rev_16:16 (R.V., “Har-Magedon”), as symbolically designating the place where the “battle of that great day of God Almighty” (Rev_16:14) shall be fought. The world properly means the “mount of Megiddo.” It is the scene of the final conflict between Christ and Antichrist. The idea of such a scene was suggested by the Old Testament great battle-field, the plain of Esdraelon (q.v.).

[So it's a Plain/Valley of Esdraelon, not Megiddo, lending to Mt Zion?]

I think the thought here is that the Valley of Esdraelon is in the Jezreel Valley next to Megiddo. We note the following from Wikipedia under "Valley of Jezreel:"

"Etymology[edit]

The Jezreel Valley takes its name from the ancient city of Jezreel .. which was located on a low hill overlooking the southern edge of the valley .. [1] The word Jezreel comes from the Hebrew, and means "God sows" or "El sows".[2] The phrase "valley of Jezreel" was sometimes used to refer to the central part of the valley, around the city of Jezreel, while the southwestern portion was known as the "valley of Megiddo", after the ancient city of Megiddo, which was located there. The area has been known as the Plain of Esdraelon (Esdraelon is the Koine Greek rendering of Jezreel)."

This is where Gideon and his band of 300 routed the Midianites.

As far as it being a valley and not a mountain, that is partly the point. The Lord is taking the mountain of Christendom and bringing them down to the valley of destruction.


(Rev 16:16)
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

In harmony with D541:1 and with Rev.16:16 re: Armageddon, which started the 9th of Av in 1914 at the end of 2520 yrs to the day, the next vs relates to this, when the 7th angel says "it is done" - at long last the vision of 2520 yrs is done, and what follows (16:18-21) has been taking place for 100 yrs.

(Rev 16:17)
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

The 7th Messenger had been pouring out the vial of Truth for about 40 yrs into the spiritual realm; the Saints to the Temple for 37 yrs, and out of that forming temple came the announcement of authority (throne), "It is done!" And the time for "He whose right it is" had come, time to exercise authority over the nations by he who had been given all power in heaven and earth. He, who supervised the Church since Pentecost, who had returned to prepare the Harvest Church* during 40 years, for the next 100 plus years, was given the authority to smite the image and the image was smitten by the stone cut out, and the image of "Divine Rights" (permission) for 2520 years came to a halt, was destroyed. The parallels that had followed the nominal house of Israel to destruction, had now followed the nominal house of spiritual Israel to destruction.
"It is done" (Rev. 16:17) may also have a reference to Eze. 9:11 "I have done as thou hast commanded me." - Fulfilled Oct. 31, 1916.

As a result:

(Rev 16:18)
And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

WWI & WWII - never before World Wars, then Wars and rumors of wars

(Rev 16:19) And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities city of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. Begin 1914.

What fell of the cities (gov'ts) of the nations, was the "Divine right of Kings" just as the Paster said (B For'd xi & R5950), because the parallels followed the Nominal Systems to destruction, & thrones were toppled.


Papacy into 3 parts? EBC: Into three parts -- The utter overthrow of the triple alliance between the Beast (Papacy), the False Prophet (other religious systems teaching error) and the dragon (civil power.) R511:3 - I like this!
So do I. The city of the nations, i.e., Christendom, was divided back into the three parts which had formed it, i.e., those mentioned in 16:13-14.

(Rev 16:20) And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

This has been in process since 1914, the Stone struck, and since then has been the splinterizations of the mighty nations of the Ten Toes (Mtns).

We would note verse 20 as something easily pointed to today. It is under this 7th plague that this point is reached, i.e., "every island (republic) fled away (from what once was "Christ's Kingdom," or Christendom, falsely so-called) and the mountains (kingdoms) were not found." This is true today. Certainly the kingdoms are no longer found, much less a kingdom (mountain) that is united with the church nominal. If this verse does not tell us that Armageddon is now in progress, what would?

(Rev 16:21)
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

God's righteous MORALS among mankind are questioning every thought, act & decision, like great hail stones out of heaven.


God had pre-determined * allowed the Gentile supremacy as empires for 2520 yrs, and he waited until it was complete, 1914AD, and "he whose right it is" struck the Gr. image on the toes/in the ten kingdoms, and the image fell - the divine right of kings came to an end! R5950 & Bv:i - the parallels follow the Nominal Systems to destruction - that part was destroyed, the image fell, and the ten toes have been being "ground to powder," the splinterization of the nations has been going on, and the climatic winds of Armageddon in due time will blow them (all the corrupted governments) away.

This is verified by Dan. 5:25-28,30, the handwriting on the wall. We remember Rev. 16:12 (plague 6) is the drying up of the Euphrates. This is a clear reference to the fall of the literal ancient city of Babylon. By looking at that account we find that God reminded them that their days were numbered (Mene) they were weighed (tekel) and their kingdom was about to be divided (Upharsin.) We also remember that these were Babylonian weights or values: Menah = 1000 gerahs, Shekel = 20 gerahs and peres (½ a Menah or 500 gerahs.) When these are added together (remember Menah mentioned 2 times) it totals 2,520 gerahs. In other words the Lord was writing on the walls of literal Babylon: 2520. For mystic Babylon it means that when the 2520 years (Times of the Gentiles) are up, it is time for the 7th plague, their fall. - Look at verse 30: "In that night Bel-shazzar the Chaldean king was slain." The 2520 marks the time for Armageddon.

From 2014 Florida Conv.

Adams, Tom/Charlotte: *So, for 40 years the Church was prepared, & then in 1914 Satan's house was broken up? At end of 2520 years.


This is great, for now we know when Satan's house was "broken into."
And appears to fit nicely into place, as it should, for we have been seeing the world (Satan's house) in disarray ever since and increasingly so.
My understanding is that Satan's house was "broken into" at our Lord's return in 1874. - Mark 3:27 tells us that in order to even enter the strong man's (Satan's) house one must first bind the Strong man (i.e., begin the process of restraining or binding him.) This ties directly to Rev. 20:2-3. At our Lord's return he begins to bind Satan "for a thousand years" - from 1874 to 2874, after that Satan is loosed.

The 40 years prior to 1914 was not a period of great peace. Far from it. Their were assisinations (President McKinley and others,) riots, strikes, lockouts and don't forget the anarchist movement of that day. The only thing that makes it appear tame is the fact that this was not the great trouble which began in 1914.

I am not sure I follow the points made from here to the end but it sounds like you have made a good start indeed. As this is the last of the 7 plagues may i suggest a comparison of the following scriptures, all relate to this plagues picture:

Rev. 15:1,5-8 - (verses 2-4 is Song of Moses and Lamb with vss 1,5-8 wrapped around it. It gives the time for plagues as being when saints are singing this song.)
Eze. 10. Especially vss 1-7 and 14. Note man clothed in linen vs 2 is same as in Chapter 9:2,4,11. Compare 9:3 and 10:4. - Note 1 (of 4) gives man in linen plagues (coals of fire) - compare to Rev. 15:7-8 (1 of 4 attributes gives plagues), temple (house) filled with smoke from God's glory (same as Eze. 10:4).

There is, of course, more but that should get you well on you way.


And since the Fall of 2008AD, we began to cross the Granite floor in the Ante-Chamber, which should mean a stepping up, an increase of effort to overthrow Satan's Empire, to undo the Financial attribute of the world, and with that will go all the other attributes of the world - Political, Religious, and Social. The world seems to be falling apart all around us and yet the Harvest Church is still proceeding?

Interestingly, altho 2520 yrs is twice that of 1260, in time & dates they don't correspond, having a 115 year difference; including 654AD with nothing special?, is 115 years after 539AD. However, 1799AD being 115 years before 1914AD, may have some related significance??

Well, "And still there's more to follow." Much remains to be seen - when our Father sees fit. I'm glad to be able to still be learning. And points picked up during my lifetime seem to be falling into place.

Thanks for any help you can share. In Christ our Saviour, OBTom

May the Lord richly bless your efforts to serve Him!
Your brother in Christ,
Br. Rick